Midis :d

[Xanatos]

Yeah MIDIS you read it well , for some reason i think that derek has the midi files of some PX songs secretely keeped in a secret tresaure box at the ruins of atlantis , i thought that derek should publish the midis for the good of all Prog/Fusion part of the mankind :) , BECAUSE midis are the ultimate method to make songs in tabs,scores,etc

Also because i use a fancy program called "Synthesia" that show me the notes played in a stupidly guitar hero esque :D , its very funny and makes easy learning songs , it works with any midi files too :cool: http://www.synthesiagame.com/

[ando]

Anyone good enough to play PX can already hear it well enough to work it out themselves.

[moefunk]

Oh Andy, you're really not going to allow anyone an easy way out anymore, are you?;)
Have you had your coffee yet? :p

[ando]

Oh Andy, you're really not going to allow anyone an easy way out anymore, are you?;)
Have you had your coffee yet? :p

Just sick of this childish pleading...

And no.;)

[Xanatos]

you almost copy exactly a derek response in the PX cover band thread , Ando i really try , but i am 110% shure that derek is hiding the midis xD

[ando]

you almost copy exactly a derek response in the PX cover band thread , Ando i really try , but i am 110% shure that derek is hiding the midis xD

I honestly don't get you. Why should MIDI files be provided to you? Why do you feel entitled to have something that belongs to Derek?

You already asked about this in another thread. I seriously believe you would be better off studying the music yourself and making them yourself.

All of my replies are 100% mine. I don't need to borrow my ideas from anyone else.

[grohm]

I honestly don't get you. Why should MIDI files be provided to you? Why do you feel entitled to have something that belongs to Derek?

You already asked about this in another thread. I seriously believe you would be better off studying the music yourself and making them yourself.

All of my replies are 100% mine. I don't need to borrow my ideas from anyone else.


Ando, I dont think Xanatos comments are meant to be taken too serious ;)

[ando]

Well, thanks for the warning, but I'm getting kind of sick of these stupid posts. It like we've got a troll that people seem to like to have around. Amusing for the first 4 or 5, now I'm finding it tiresome.

[frank]

Ah come one Ando, don't be too hard on the new fellow.

[ando]

Ah come one Ando, don't be too hard on the new fellow.

Frank, you certainly let your disapproval of certain posts be known quite often - which I have no problem with, btw. But please don't go telling me what I'm allowed to say on this board. I wouldn't tell you to hold back your opinion.

It's become like we are such a small community that we pander to any new visitor that comes along. Are we really that grateful for the attention? Generally I tolerate Xanatos, but when he keeps posting the same comments and then starts a new thread because he wasn't getting the attention from Derek he wants, that's where I draw the line. That's my perspective as a longtime member of this forum. You drew your own line as a moderator when you told him to stop bumping ancient threads. It's no different.

[moefunk]

OK guys, all of you, forget that coffee I mentioned, and just have a beer instead. Just the one or two, mind, and make it good, tasty ones too. Possibly Belgian if you have access to them:D. And I suggest you have them in the afternoon, or as the French would say "apres-midi" :p. There. Put it to rest guys.;)

My two cents on-topic: It's way better to try and transcribe the stuff yourself. Even if you don't get it 100% right, or even 80%, you will still have learned some valuable stuff. You will only be that much better as a musician. I've done that sort of thing over and over myself. Often when I go back to a transcription I have done quite some time ago, I find that I have grown in the meantime and am able to correct mistakes in the original transcriptions. IMO, that's how you learn best.

And I'm sure that if you ask people around nicely Xanatos, there would be plenty of people who would be willing to have a look at any of your transcriptions and make some suggestions to help you further on track. But you'll have to put some hard yards in yourself, first, otherwise you'll never get anywhere.

[frank]

Fair enough. I am most certainly not telling you what you're allowed to say and what not. I was just thinking that the guy doesn't mean any harm, so I was hoping you'd cut him some slack.

Point taken, nonetheless. The thread bumping became a nuissance and I get what you mean. I did not particularly draw any line to be honest, if you might be referring to me accidently removing his posts, that was truely a mistake. Not saying that you're saying that it was on purpose, just making that clear once more, because I am still bummed about that mistake.

Oh btw I'm gonna be sending you a PM in a few minutes, be sure to check it. And no it's not about this thread or Xanatos. :)

[ando]

The way I see it, the proof of a truly civilised community is not in avoiding contentious issues, strong opinions or controversy. It is when you confront such things and still maintain a sense of self-control and proportion. I raise these points because that's what I'm thinking and that's what I want to share with my good mates on this forum. I don't want this place to become sanitised and a place where it is better to keep your mouth shut and play nice rather than give your real opinion. It has always been a place where frankness is welcomed and pettiness generally avoided. I can think of no better example of this than our late friend Dee. He was never shy in coming forward with his opinion and I think it was the platform that this community was built on. I plan to keep doing that - even at the expense of putting a few noses out of joint if they are the types who prefer to keep it light and fluffy. I love a good joke, and I love a good discussion. But I have never suffered fools gladly. Doubt I ever will.

[moefunk]

Agreed Ando. Good point. I'm certainly not advocating political correctness at all cost though (anybody who's read any of my posts will know I'm hardly ever that:p). I will respect anyone's opinion until proven fool or insane, but while I do welcome discussion and difference of opinion, at the same time, I will always ask myself whether it's worth to me to make a big thing out of something. And I usually find it's not.

Some might call this fence-sitting. I know many people like to do that when people don't give clear black-or-white kind of statements, but be aware that keeping to middle-ground can also be a considered opinion - when I sit on a fence I will always mount a chair on it first.:D

Then again, I'm not saying that we all need to do that at all, it's just my way of doing things. What works for me doesn't necessarily work for anybody else.

So what about that beer, eh?

[frank]

I like beer. Beer is nice. Beer is my friend. Beer is what makes the world go round. Beer, helping men have sex since the first brew. Beer brings courage, laughter and world peace!

[ando]

I take what you are saying Moe. And I don't like to grandstand for the sake of it, nor do I organise my opinions into heavily polarised for or against positions. I agree that most times it is not worth the trouble to worry about some silly oddity. But sometimes, it can be more expedient to actually confront something head on.

With this midi file stuff, Xanatos is willing to go on about it and bring it up in various threads and talk about it in a nonsensical way implying that Derek is withholding these files from us. I don't know how long these posts will continue, or whether they will generalise into regular pleadings of similarly weird requests from Derek. I saw it as an opportunity, first, to make a quick statement to knock it on the head as an unreasonable request, and second, a chance to learn that you are better off doing your own transcriptions. That in itself is pretty compact.

The only reason this thread is getting a bit involved is because of commentary about the nature of my posts, or more specifically, the level of tolerance I am showing this new member. It might have been easier to just let it go, but I think it sends a clearer message to a new member that if you direct an enquiry to Derek, it should be respectful and sensible. In that sense, I'm only trying to uphold the standards of the board which has always enjoyed a good rapport with Derek. If we start accepting silly comments in the ask Derek section, we run the risk of undermining the open channel of communication we have always enjoyed with Derek.

[ando]

Oh, and yes, I like beer too. In fact, later this year, I'm thinking of coming to Adelaide for a couple of days so I can drink Moe's beer and crash on his sofa.

[moefunk]

I take what you are saying Moe. And I don't like to grandstand for the sake of it, nor do I organise my opinions into heavily polarised for or against positions.

Just to be clear about this - I certainly didn't mean to imply that you do Ando. Cheers!

With this midi file stuff, Xanatos is willing to go on about it and bring it up in various threads and talk about it in a nonsensical way implying that Derek is withholding these files from us. I don't know how long these posts will continue, or whether they will generalise into regular pleadings of similarly weird requests from Derek. (...) It might have been easier to just let it go, but I think it sends a clearer message to a new member that if you direct an enquiry to Derek, it should be respectful and sensible. In that sense, I'm only trying to uphold the standards of the board which has always enjoyed a good rapport with Derek. If we start accepting silly comments in the ask Derek section, we run the risk of undermining the open channel of communication we have always enjoyed with Derek.

You make a good point there. I couldn't agree more - sillyness belongs in the General Chat section. But I'm also sure Derek recognises a joke when he sees one.

[moefunk]

Oh, and yes, I like beer too. In fact, later this year, I'm thinking of coming to Adelaide for a couple of days so I can drink Moe's beer and crash on his sofa.

Awesome Ando! You're more than welcome mate! Looking forward to it!

[Xanatos]

Its maybe a lenguage issue , but i think that ando hates me xD

[moefunk]

No, he doesn't mate, he's just concerned with the integrity of the forum and this section of it in particular. I don't think it's personal at all.

[CrazyDrummer]

Its maybe a lenguage issue , but i think that ando hates me xD

Guys,I really love reading your posts,but the best idea of this thread was the frank's one..let's get a couple of fuckin beer!XD
we have different opinions,different ways to think,different countries,but we love the same music..and how can we hate each other if we never had met each other??we are just a community of fans,musicians and friends..it's what I've found here..you could be murderers,rapers or I don't know what,but from your words I can say you all are very good people..(don't worry,I can't get the point in my speech in any language,italian as english)
THE POINT IS midis are property of derek,if i wrote such difficult and beautiful things i'd never give that away,so come and get him guys!i'll never be able to write something down just after have heard it,i'm training but it's not my job,but some of you sure will,so this is a challenge that can improve each of you ^^

[ando]

THE POINT IS midis are property of derek,if i wrote such difficult and beautiful things i'd never give that away,so come and get him guys!i'll never be able to write something down just after have heard it,i'm training but it's not my job,but some of you sure will,so this is a challenge that can improve each of you ^^

This^^.

By the way, I don't hate anyone, and I don't hate you, Xanatos. I just think you need to relax about these MIDI files and accept that you will have to make them yourself. You will be glad you did if you manage to do it. :)

[CrazyDrummer]

wow,I should consider to get away from Italy and become a journalist,I can't believe how did i write the post,I'll take several times to read it again and again xD we finally close the thread xD

[frank]

Closing this thread doesn't seem like such a bad idea. Wanna try out your new powers Ando? :p